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Bride Pride, Ketubahs, and A Great Mystery   




          Mar 26, 2014 draft


Ephesians 5v30 Because we-are members of his body.

v31 Instead-of this (a) MAN shall-leave-behind the father and the mother and he-shall-be-very-united to his wife and the two shall-be with-reference-to flesh, one.

v32 This mystery is great, but I-myself am-saying with-reference-to Messiah and with-reference-to the assembly.



It seems to me that on the one hand many Christians miss this mystery because their doctrine calls for them to be the bride of Christ; on the other hand many Messianics miss this mystery because they need a ketubah to fit their doctrine.  


Regarding marriage, Jesus said things were different in the beginning.  I believe he was speaking of the time before Eve was created.


Gen.1:27 And God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Note "his own image" indicating single masculine visible form, and yet "male and female created he them".  This arrangement/order of the "body" is further described in Eph. ch5.  and Gen. ch2.  It is a great mystery...but understandable. Eve was created a wife, and was never a bride.  So too the church (New Covenant ekklasia) is not the bride of Messiah....the hand, foot, toe, i.e. -the BODY - cannot marry the they are already one - echad - unity.

Genesis 2:22-24  "and the rib, which Jehovah God had taken from the man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And the man said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.  Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his WIFE: and they shall be one flesh."


It is comforting to see in both Gen. and Eph. it is the man's work of cleaving that makes the two "echad" - one.  I also note that "shall" indicates a future sense.  As believers, that future is now, in part, as we understand that it is Yeshua's cleaving to us that brings us into a state of echad with him.  As a married man, it gives me a sense of responsibility!


Again, I believe Jesus was referring to the "pre-Adam & Eve" unity of MANKIND:


Matthew 19 v8 "He-is-saying to-them, that Moses toward the hardness-of YOUR heart permitted to-YOU to-release YOUR wives; but from beginning it-has not come-to-be-nor-is thus."  (and See Deut.24)


Jesus of course, was speaking in parable:

Matthew 14v34 The Jesus spoke all these-(things) in parables to-the crowds, and separate-from parable he-was not speaking to-them;

v35 In-which-case the-(thing) having-been-said through the prophet might-be-fulfilled, saying, I-shall-open my mouth in parables: I-shall-blurt-out (things)-having-been-and-still-hidden from casting-down of-(a)-world.


-note- a parable about Israel's prostitution to strange gods and related adultery:

Matthew 19v9 But I-am-saying to-YOU, that whosoever might-release his wife unless on prostitution, and he-might-marry another, he-is-committing-adultery; and the-(one) having-married (one)-having-been-and-still-released, he-is-committing-adultery.

v10 His disciples are-saying to-him, If the reason of-the MAN with the wife is thus, it-is not being-advantageous to-marry.

v11 But the-(one) said to-them, Not all are-having-room-for this word, BUT to-whom it-has-been-and-is-still-given;


Comparing scriptures - regarding spiritual adultery:

Romans 7v1 Or are-YOU-being-ignorant, brothers, for I-am-speaking to-(ones)-coming-to-know law, that the law is-exercising-lordship of-the MAN on as-long time as he-is-living?
 v2 For the woman under-a-husband has-been-and-is-still-bound by-law to-the living husband; but if the husband might-die-off, she-has-been-and-is still-rendered-inactive from the law of-the husband.
 v3 So therefore, while the husband (is) living, she-will-be-termed (an) adulteress if she-might-become to-(a)-different man; but if the husband might-die-off, she-is free from the law, she (will) not be (an) adulteress having-become to-(a)-different man.
 v4 So-that, my brothers, YOU yourselves also were-put-to-death to-the law through the body of-the Messiah, with-reference-to YOU to-become to-(a)-different (one), to-the (one) having-been-raised out-of dead (ones), in-order-that we-might-bring-forth-fruit to-the God.

v5 For when we-were in the flesh, the sufferings of-the sins the (sufferings) through the law were-operating in our members with-reference-to the (object) to-bring-forth-fruit to-the death;

v6 But at-this-instant we-were-rendered-inactive from the law, having-died-off in which we-were-being-held-fast, so-that we (are) to-be-being-a-slave in newness of-spirit and not in-oldness of-letter.


Comparing scriptures - regarding spiritual adultery

Galatians 4:v21 YOU-be-saying to-me, the (ones) willing to-be under law, are-YOU not hearing the law?
  v22 For it-has-been-and-still-is-written that Abraham had two sons, one out-of the maidservant and one out-of the free-woman.
  v23 BUT-on-the-one-hand the (one) out-of the maidservant has-been-and-is-begotten according-to flesh, on-the-other-hand the (one) out-of the free-woman through the promise.
  v24 Which-things are being-allegorized; for these (women) are two covenants, on-the-one-hand one from mount Sinai, bearing with-reference-to slavery, one-who is Hagar.
  v25 But the Hagar is mount Sinai in the Arabia; but it-is-being-in-line-together to-the now Jerusalem, for she-is-being-a-slave with her children.
  v26 But the above Jerusalem is free, one-who is our mother;
  v27 For it-has-been-and-is-still-written: You-be-made-merry, barren, the (one) not bringing-forth, you-rend-asunder and you-shout, the (one) not suffering-birth-pains, because many (are) the children of-the desolate more than of-the (one) having the husband.
  v28 But YOU, brothers, are-yourselves children of-promise according-to Isaac.
  v29 BUT as-altogether then the (one) having-been-begotten according-to flesh was-persecuting the (one) according-to Spirit, thus also now.
  v30 BUT what is-saying the scripture? You-cast-out the maidservant and her son; for by-no-means will the son of-the maidservant inherit with the son of-the free-woman.
  v31 On-this-account, brothers, we-are not children of-a-maidservant BUT of-the free-woman.


 {also related thinking on Polygamy}gasp



Ephesians 5:30-32  aligns with the biblical record in Genesis 1:27 & 2:22-24, where Eve was created a wife and was never a bride.

*Christians are created to-one man to stand alongside the bridegroom:

2 Corinthians 11v2 For I-am-being-jealous-(of) YOU with-a-jealousy of-God, for I-myself-joined YOU to-one man to-stand-alongside (a) pure virgin for-the Messiah;

v3 But I-am-fearing lest by-any-means as the serpent deluded Eve in his craftiness, thus YOUR thoughts might-be-corrupted from the simplicity and the pureness (namely-that) with-reference-to Messiah.

  ↕↕  Don't lose these verses!  ↕↕

John 3:29   The (one) having the bride is bridegroom; but the friend of-the bridegroom, the (one) having-stood-and-still-standing and hearing of-him, he-is-rejoicing with-joy because-of the voice of-the bridegroom, this therefore the joy namely-mine is-having-been-and-is-still fulfilled.


Thus the New Testament assembly is not the "bride" of Christ.  Israel is the bride of Messiah, while the N.T. assembly is already the body of Messiah.  The hand or foot cannot marry the head! Christ is the head!  REMEMBER, IT'S A GREAT MYSTERY! 



Israel will also be sprinkled with clean water, at the compete finish of the age, when all of Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 are completely fulfilled:

Ezekiel  36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which hath been profaned among the nations, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the nations shall know that I am Jehovah, saith the Lord Jehovah, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
 24 For I will take you from among the nations, and gather you out of all the countries, and will bring you into your own land.
 25 And
I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh.
 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep mine ordinances, and do them.
 28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.


And so all Israel shall be saved. 

Romans 11v26 And thus all Israel will-be-saved, according-as it-has-been-and-still-is-written: The (one) delivering will-be-present out-of Sion, he-will-turn-back impiety from Jacob. (c.f. Isa.59.20)
v27 And this (is) the covenant from me to-them, at-the-time-that I-might-remove-for-myself their sins.
v28 On-the-one-hand enemies according-to the good-news because-of YOU, on-the-other-hand cherished (ones) according-to the choice because-of the fathers;
v29 For the bestowed-favors and the calling of-the God (are) unregrettable.
v30 For as-altogether YOU yourselves at-one-time disobeyed the God, but now YOU-had-mercy-bestowed in-the disobedience of-these.
v31 Thus these also now disobeyed in-order-that by your mercy they themselves also might now have-mercy-bestowed.
v32 For the God shut-together all the (ones) with-reference-to disobedience in-order-that he-might-have-mercy (on) all the (ones).
v33 O depth of-God's riches and wisdom and knowledge; as unsearchable his sentences and untraceable his ways.
v34 For who came-to-know (the) mind of Jehovah? Or who became his fellow-counselor?
v35 Or who gave-before to-him, and it-will-be-repaid to-him?
v36 Because out-of him and through him and with-reference-to him (are) the all-things; to-him (be) the glory with-reference-to the ages:




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